Buy Ideal Clients
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Call Description
This High Ticket Tuesday call focuses on identity, belief, niche confidence, sales process, pricing strategy, financial training, and the idea of “buying ideal clients.” Curtis opens with lessons from 27 years in coaching and his time with Tony Robbins, emphasizing who the coach is being and the importance of caring about client results. Randy shares lessons from exiting his Budget Blinds business and improving sales SOPs. Michael asks about what clients receive inside the platform, leading Karl into a breakdown of Academy training, marketing turnkeys, financial training, Launch Factory, Exit Acceleration, and the broader Start-Grow-Exit lifecycle. The call closes with Karl’s major concept: if he had money to start a business, he would use it to buy ideal clients, including through a free or low-cost test-drive coaching offer with forced continuity.
Why this call matters
This call helps coaches understand that high-ticket coaching is not only about selling harder. It is about belief, identity, specificity, demonstrations, and getting ideal clients into motion. Karl frames “buying ideal clients” as a practical way to get experience, start the relationship, collect the credit card, and build recurring coaching revenue. The call also reinforces that PAS is built on math, not hope, and that tools like the simulator, financial training, turnkeys, and Launch Factory can help coaches create stronger demonstrations and stronger offers.
Key Points:
0:00 – Opening and Gary Check-In
Karl opens the call and checks in with Gary, who jokes that if he were doing any better, his name would be Karl Bryan without back problems.
0:41 – Curtis Check-In
Karl opens Curtis, who is cooking lunch and says he is “blessed and highly favored.”
1:00 – Curtis’s Coaching Background
Curtis shares that he has been coaching for 27 years and was personally recruited and trained by Tony Robbins.
1:25 – Building Tony Robbins’ Coaching Department
Curtis explains that he helped build the coaching department from a small office in La Jolla to Tony’s larger complex.
2:16 – Needle Mover for Coaches
Curtis says the key for coaches is who they are being: their vision, identity, beliefs, and impact.
2:30 – Needle Mover for Clients
For clients, Curtis says coaches need to care about the client getting the result more than the client may want it for themselves.
3:13 – Biggest Tony Robbins Lesson
Curtis says the biggest lesson from Tony Robbins is identity: who you believe you are, how you show up, and what actions flow from that.
4:11 – Be, Do, Have
Karl connects Curtis’s point to “be, do, have,” explaining that most people try to have first instead of becoming the person.
4:33 – 50 Ways to Help an Industry
Karl explains an exercise he gives coaches: pick a niche, such as restaurants, and write down 50 legitimate ways to help that business type.
5:06 – Magic Is in the Planning
Karl reinforces that the magic is not in the plan but in the planning, using the Mike Tyson “punched in the nose” quote.
7:05 – Randy Check-In
Karl opens Randy, who recently moved to Florida and is getting settled.
7:25 – Book and Audible Project
Randy shares that his book is out and he is finishing the Audible version.
7:54 – Randy’s Budget Blinds Exit
Karl confirms that Randy exited a Budget Blinds business for a significant amount after buying it in 2003 and exiting in 2025.
8:24 – Exit Experience Matters
Randy says Exit Acceleration is exciting because he lived the exit process and knows business owners need to plan for the end from the beginning.
9:10 – Best Client Is You Five Years Ago
Karl says the ideal client is often a version of yourself from five years ago.
9:35 – Blind Company Needle Mover
Randy says the biggest growth advice for a blind company is to improve the sales process.
9:55 – Sales SOPs
Randy explains that many companies do not have a sales SOP and simply let the sale happen instead of creating a beginning, middle, and end.
10:23 – Build Emotional Value
Randy says people buy emotionally and justify with logic, so the sales process needs to involve the prospect emotionally.
10:49 – Sales Process Can Lift Close Rate
Randy says improving the value-add sales process could increase closing averages by 10 to 15%.
11:25 – Upsell Opportunities in Blinds
Randy says automation, cordless options, child safety, warranties, shutters, and fabric upgrades are all useful upsell or cross-sell opportunities.
12:41 – Many Blind Companies Are Behind
Karl asks whether the average blind company is behind the times, and Randy agrees.
13:23 – Stay Current on Trends
Randy says owners need to stay current with automation, styles, draperies, treatments, and fabric colors.
14:23 – Michael Check-In
Karl opens Michael, who has a branded background and recently joined the program.
14:49 – Michael’s MMA Background
Michael shares that he had 14 professional MMA fights and has been a black belt in jiu-jitsu since 2011.
15:36 – New Coach Balancing Time
Michael says he is about three weeks in, has completed certifications quickly, and is balancing the program with a full-time job.
16:08 – Platform Value Question
Michael asks what clients receive from the platform beyond done-for-you marketing materials and coaching session tracking.
16:26 – Academy Recommendation
Karl recommends going through the Academy and watching the 52-week curriculum to understand and strengthen belief.
17:21 – Marketing Turnkeys
Karl highlights the marketing turnkeys as valuable assets that would cost a lot to build privately.
17:31 – Four-Part Marketing Structure
Karl explains the four-part marketing formula: interrupt, engage, educate, and offer.
18:17 – Most Marketing Is Weak
Karl says many marketing pieces simply show the company name, “service, quality, dependability,” and contact information, with no real interrupt, engage, educate, or offer.
18:59 – Who Else Can Say That?
Karl gives the acid test for marketing: if competitors can say the same thing, it should not be on the marketing piece.
19:30 – $50,000 Training Concept
Karl says coaches can reverse-engineer the turnkeys to learn how to build marketing systems for other industries.
20:05 – Market Dominating Position
Karl emphasizes that MDP should be part of the marketing system because clients should aim to be the only, not just the best.
20:34 – Start, Grow, Exit Bookends
Karl explains that Launch Factory and Exit Acceleration are bookends around PAS: help people start, grow, and exit a business.
21:25 – Launch Factory Enthusiasm
Karl says the recent Launch Factory kickoff had an unusually high level of enthusiasm.
21:58 – Kiosk Idea for Launch Factory
Karl suggests a potential kiosk concept at a mall, asking passersby whether they know anyone who wants to start a company.
22:16 – Launch Factory as Product for the 95%
Karl frames Launch Factory as a product for the 95% of people who do not start businesses but may want to.
22:28 – Best Client Is You Five Years Ago
Karl tells Michael that helping people start could fit him well because he is on that journey himself.
23:10 – Focus on Start and Grow Before Exit
Karl suggests that Michael may be better suited right now for Launch Factory and PAS than for Exit Acceleration.
24:10 – Michael’s Aha Moment
Michael says the biggest aha so far is profit acceleration and seeing what two or three percent changes can do.
24:46 – Built on Math, Not Hope
Karl explains that the simulator is powerful because it is built on math, not hope or a story.
25:28 – $500K Business Example
Karl gives an example of a company doing $500K in revenue, 50% gross margin, and 10% net profit.
26:00 – 2%, 5%, and 10% Improvements
Karl explains how 2%, 5%, and 10% improvements across the 12 areas can create major profit impact.
26:47 – Let Us Believe in You
Karl shares an early coaching system phrase: “Let us believe in you until you believe in yourself.”
27:05 – Fear Drives Objections
Karl explains that objections usually come from fear: fear it will not work, fear they will not follow through, or fear wasting money again.
27:33 – No Results, No Fee
Karl says he built a multi-million-dollar business on the four words “no results, no fee.”
29:03 – Sean’s Financial Wizard Story
Sean shares that after walking people through the Profit Acceleration seminar, someone introduced him as a “financial wizard.”
29:49 – Business Therapist Positioning
Sean shares that one client called him a business therapist, which led to the line, “I help business owners sleep better at night.”
30:20 – Financial Training Recommendation
Karl strongly recommends that coaches complete the financial training inside the Academy.
30:56 – Accountants Praise the Training
Karl says accountants have said the financial training should be mandatory viewing for accounting students and accountants.
31:04 – Sell the Financial Training
Karl reminds coaches that they can sell the financial training at whatever price they choose and keep the revenue.
31:46 – Three Financial Documents
Karl explains that coaches need to understand the balance sheet, cash flow statement, and especially the P&L.
33:28 – Jacob’s Team Uses Financial Training
Jacob says his team now requires every client to go through the financial training before starting.
33:54 – SOP Worksheet and Financial Training
Jacob says his team gives clients an SOP worksheet and the financial training before even doing the assessment.
34:22 – Charging for the Financial Training
Jacob confirms they charge for it and package it into a larger upfront offer.
35:14 – Social Proof for Financial Training
Karl uses Jacob’s example as social proof that the financial training is valuable and usable with clients.
36:17 – Main Topic Setup
Karl says he wants to cement one recurring theme into the group.
36:31 – What Would Karl Do With $100K?
Karl asks what he would do if he started a company with $100K.
37:33 – Advertising Flywheel
Karl begins explaining why businesses buy advertising and how that connects to their deeper goal of freedom.
38:23 – Leads to Freedom Flywheel
Karl walks through the flywheel: leads, hot prospects, clients, revenue, profit, cash, big business, wealth, and freedom.
39:34 – Advertising Rarely Works Fully
Karl asks the group how often a $10K to $25K ad works and uses the example to explain why advertising is often risky.
40:31 – Get the Family to Disneyland
Karl says if the goal of the ad is to get the owner closer to freedom, sometimes they would be better off spending the money directly on the freedom outcome.
41:06 – Install the Operating System Before Advertising
Karl says before turning on ads, he would install the operating system: upsell, downsell, cross-sell, upfront offer, and cost control.
41:51 – Social Proof Flywheel
Karl connects Sean’s story to the idea that working with clients creates social proof, which creates more opportunities.
42:50 – Three Words: Buying Ideal Clients
Karl reveals the three words: buying ideal clients.
43:23 – Bill Roberts Example Preview
Karl says Bill Roberts used this strategy to get coaching clients and revenue.
44:21 – $2K/Month Coaching Example
Karl uses a $2K/month coaching client as a simple model for how to buy a $24K/year client.
44:39 – Earn vs. Learn
Karl says coaches should worry less about what they earn and more about what they learn, especially when the airplane is still near the ground.
45:11 – Free Plus Shipping With Forced Continuity
Karl explains the internet marketing model he used years earlier: free plus shipping with forced continuity.
45:54 – Low-Cost Entry Builds Continuity
Karl explains that a low-cost offer can lead into continuity and eventually higher-ticket programs.
47:31 – Coach Free for 30 Days
Karl says one way to buy an ideal coaching client is to coach them free for 30 days.
48:07 – Charge the Hard Cost
The key is charging a small hard cost, such as $97 for software, so the client puts down a credit card.
48:49 – Ramp-Up After the First Month
The suggested structure is $97 upfront, then a ramp-up such as $497, $997, $1,497, and $1,997.
49:56 – Buying a $24K Client
Karl explains that although the coach gave away time, they effectively bought a $24K client.
52:21 – Landscaping Example
Karl says if he started a landscaping company, he would mow ideal clients’ lawns for free to get the relationship started.
53:16 – McDonald’s and DoorDash Example
Karl uses McDonald’s $1 Big Mac with DoorDash as an example of buying ideal clients and getting the first transaction.
53:31 – Facebook Groups Example
Karl explains that Facebook promoted groups because groups help it capture audiences for advertising.
54:08 – Bill Confirms the Strategy Worked
Bill says he used a $97 test-drive program after his plane was on the ground and it worked.
54:31 – Bill’s First Client on the Model
Bill says he first planned to coach for free, then called the client back to charge the $97 hard cost.
54:59 – Client Now Pays $997/Month
Bill says that first client now pays $997/month and will move to $1,497/month in three months.
55:20 – Strategy Worked Five More Times
Bill says the strategy has worked five more times and his highest-paying client is now $3,000/month.
56:51 – Jacob on Finding Fees in the Budget
Jacob says if a client is already spending money on something that does not work, the coach’s fee can be found in that existing budget.
57:12 – Money at a Discount
Karl closes by comparing coaching ROI to trading a $5 bill for a $20 bill.
57:56 – Closing Reminder
Karl reminds everyone about upcoming calls: Launch Acceleration, Get Your First Client, and Monday Group Coaching.
59:55 – Final Close
Karl ends with the reminder that the big dogs are buying ideal clients.
Five Key Takeaways
- Coaches need to work on identity first. Who they are being affects how they sell, coach, and lead.
- The best client is often a version of yourself from five years ago because you understand their pain and the path forward.
- The simulator, financial training, marketing turnkeys, Academy, Launch Factory, and PAS tools give coaches strong assets to demonstrate value.
- Financial training can be sold, bundled, or used as a client requirement because it helps business owners understand the numbers before coaching begins.
- Buying ideal clients can be a smart early-stage strategy. A free or low-cost first month with a hard-cost payment and ramp-up can create experience, continuity, and recurring revenue.
Notable Quotes
“Blessed and highly favored.”
“For a coach, it’s who you’re being.”
“You’ve got to stand for your clients.”
“Be, do, have.”
“The magic is not in the plan. The magic is in the planning.”
“Your best client is you five years ago.”
“People buy emotionally and justify with logic.”
“You don’t want to be the best. You want to be the only.”
“Profit is the domino that knocks over all the other dominoes.”
“It is built on math.”
“Let us believe in you until you believe in yourself.”
“No results, no fee.”
“I help business owners sleep better at night.”
“Buying ideal clients.”
“It’s not what I earn. It’s what I learn.”
“Free plus shipping with forced continuity.”
“You’re one letter away from greatness.”
“Money at a discount.”
Action Steps from the Call
- Define who you are being as a coach.
- Clarify your vision as a coach.
- Clarify the impact you want to make.
- Identify your beliefs about your ability to help clients.
- Choose a niche or industry to practice with.
- Write down 50 legitimate ways you can help that industry.
- Use the 50 ways exercise to build conviction.
- Identify your best client as a version of yourself five years ago.
- Look for clients whose problems you deeply understand.
- If serving blind companies, improve the sales SOP first.
- Build a beginning, middle, and end for the sales process.
- Add emotional value to the client sales process.
- Look for upsells such as automation, warranties, premium materials, and higher-end options.
- Stay current on industry trends before advising clients.
- Complete the Academy curriculum.
- Watch the 52-week curriculum to strengthen belief.
- Review the marketing turnkeys.
- Reverse-engineer the turnkeys.
- Study the interrupt, engage, educate, offer structure.
- Apply the turnkey structure to another industry.
- Build confidence using the simulator.
- Practice showing 2% and 3% changes in the simulator.
- Keep simulator projections believable.
- Review the Launch Factory kickoff if you missed it.
- Consider whether Launch Factory fits your current stage and audience.
- Complete the financial training inside the Academy.
- Consider selling the financial training as a standalone or bundled offer.
- Use financial training to prepare clients before deeper coaching.
- Have clients understand the P&L before major strategy work.
- Use SOP worksheets to understand what is really happening in the business.
- Use financial training as social proof when accountants or CFOs validate it.
- Think in flywheels, not straight lines.
- Understand the advertising-to-freedom flywheel.
- Help clients install the operating system before spending more on ads.
- Review current ad spend and stop what is not working.
- Use savings from bad spend to fund coaching.
- Look for ideal clients you can buy into the relationship.
- Offer a free or low-cost first month if your airplane is still on the ground.
- Charge a hard cost so the client gives you a credit card.
- Consider a $97 test-drive offer.
- Build a ramp-up after the first month.
- Use a structure like $97, then $497, $997, $1,497, and $1,997 if appropriate.
- Focus on learning and testimonials while building revenue.
- Track which clients are ideal and which are not.
- Avoid buying non-ideal clients just to be busy.
- Use the first month to deliver value and prove the coaching relationship.
- Find your fee inside the client’s existing wasted budget.
- Frame coaching as money at a discount.
- Use social proof from clients to start new conversations.
- Attend the upcoming Launch Acceleration, Get Your First Client, and Monday Group Coaching calls.
Resources & Tools Mentioned
- High Ticket Tuesday
- Tony Robbins Coaching
- PAS / Profit Acceleration Software
- Profit Acceleration Simulator
- Academy
- 52-Week Curriculum
- Financial Training
- P&L Training
- Balance Sheet
- Cash Flow Statement
- Marketing Turnkeys
- Interrupt, Engage, Educate, Offer
- Market Dominating Position / MDP
- Launch Factory
- Non-Franchise Franchise
- Exit Acceleration Operating System
- Start, Grow, Exit
- Jumpstart 12
- Upsell
- Downsell
- Cross-Sell
- Proper Upfront Offer
- Cost Control
- SOP Worksheet
- Financial Wizard Positioning
- Business Therapist Positioning
- Free Plus Shipping
- Forced Continuity
- $97 Test Drive
- Ramp-Up Offer
- DoorDash
- McDonald’s
- Facebook Groups
- Landscaping Example
- Budget Blinds
- Tony Robbins
- Mike Tyson
- Evander Holyfield
- George Foreman
- Lennox Lewis
- Spider-Man
- Launch Acceleration Call
- Get Your First Client Call
- Monday Group Coaching
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